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LiberalArkie

(16,660 posts)
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:42 AM Dec 19

The world has been warming faster than expected. Scientists now think they know why

Last year was the hottest on record, oceans boiled, glaciers melted at alarming rates, and it left scientists scrambling to understand exactly why.

Now a new study published Thursday in the journal Science says it has identified the missing part of the puzzle: clouds.

To be more specific, the rapid surge in warming was supercharged by a dearth of low-lying clouds over the oceans, according to the research — findings which may have alarming implications for future warming.

In simple terms, fewer bright, low clouds mean the planet “has darkened,” allowing it to absorb more sunlight, said Helge Goessling, a report author and climate physicist at the Alfred Wegener Institute in Germany.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/the-world-has-been-warming-faster-than-expected-scientists-now-think-they-know-why/ar-AA1vlbPe?ocid=BingNewsVerp


Comment: The report indicates that the "darkening of the surface" started in the 1970's. Is that when concrete stopped being used and was replaced by asphalt?

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The world has been warming faster than expected. Scientists now think they know why (Original Post) LiberalArkie Dec 19 OP
Oceans boiled? Really? marybourg Dec 19 #1
Only time I have observed ocean water boiling, yagotme Dec 19 #4
Hyperbole nilram Dec 19 #5
Higher air temps mean the moisture in the air won't condense and form clouds... Wounded Bear Dec 19 #2
Concrete has NOT stopped being used. MineralMan Dec 19 #3
Yes I know that. I think that most interstates use concrete. But where I am located that is the only place concrete is LiberalArkie Dec 19 #7
NOVA had a documentary in 2006, " Dimming the Sun" Phoenix61 Dec 19 #6
K & R Thanks for posting FakeNoose Dec 19 #8

yagotme

(3,951 posts)
4. Only time I have observed ocean water boiling,
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 12:44 PM
Dec 19

was from an underground volcano. Sunlight didn't have a thing to do with it.

Wounded Bear

(60,847 posts)
2. Higher air temps mean the moisture in the air won't condense and form clouds...
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 11:05 AM
Dec 19

Less cloud cover means more direct heating of the oceans by sunlight.

We're in a positive feedback loop now, god help us.

MineralMan

(148,004 posts)
3. Concrete has NOT stopped being used.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 11:12 AM
Dec 19

It's difficult to find information on how much of our road surface is concrete and how much is asphalt. However, when the interstate highway system was built, starting in the 1950s, concrete was used more than asphalt due to its longer lifespan.

Both are still in use in roadbuilding. But concrete did not "stop being used" in the 1970s. Not at all. They're still pouring reinforced concrete highways just about everywhere.

LiberalArkie

(16,660 posts)
7. Yes I know that. I think that most interstates use concrete. But where I am located that is the only place concrete is
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 02:06 PM
Dec 19

used. When I grew up everything was concrete and light covered except the roofs of buildings and homes. Now all the streets are all asphalt but the roofs have gone white to cut down on the heat. As kids we played in the streets barefoot. Now it would roast your feet on the black surface.

No science involved as my last science class was in the dark ages in the 60's. Just a crazy observation.

I just remembered that some city were trying to get buildings to put on the white roofing instead of just the black tar to prevent the heat islands.

Phoenix61

(17,725 posts)
6. NOVA had a documentary in 2006, " Dimming the Sun"
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 01:41 PM
Dec 19

that talked about this. It discussed the change in pan evaporation rates which is a tool farmers use for calculating water needs for crops and livestock. The rates have been tracked for over 50 years so there is solid, long-term data. Anyway, the documentary is definitely worth watching.

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