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hatrack

(61,194 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:01 PM Dec 15

Morgan Wallen, Thomas Rhett And The Poison Of Bullshit Nostalgia

So I was at the gym this afternoon at the local university. The radio was on, plus eight or ten TVs without which weights could not (apparently) be lifted. More to the point, some truly dreadful country music came on while I was working out, and it got me thinking.

I don't follow contemporary country & western much anymore. Why? Because in the last 10-15 years it's begun to really suck. Time was when "three chords and the truth" was the truth, and I grew out of my snotty sneering at steel guitar many years ago. But with some notable exceptions, country today just blows for two reasons.

1. It's not country & western, it's twangy pop chockablock with what is essentially product placement - my truck, my gun, my girlfriend, my beer, my boots, my hometown.

2. It's that last item that swerves quickly and disastrously into Trumpian political bullshit. Because, boys and girls, as it turns out, there are two kinds of people living in this country.

There are Real 'Murcans. They exemplify hard work and traditional values and take care of their families and neighbors. They have guns and drive trucks and live in small towns and out in the country. They hunt and fish and drink beer and work in factory jobs or farm and ranch, and they never left their idyllic, peaceful hometowns. They go to church and fly the flag and love 'Murca. These activities, in and of themselves, define their Realness.

Others living in this country do not conform to this activity list. They are lazy and do not care for their families and neighbors. They lack guns, drive sedans and hybrid cars, and live in places that are not small towns or rural townships. They do not hunt or fish, they drink wine, and they work in offices in a number of different professions. In addition, they have left their hometowns and live in dirty, dangerous cities. They do not go to church or fly the flag, and they hate 'Murca, and are not Real.

The verse that caught my attention:

If every nightstand had a Bible, every front porch had a swing
If every backyard had a garden, every front door had a screen
Well, maybe this crazy world would straighten up and slow on down, If every town had a Mamaw's house

The verse that caught my attention, annotated:

If every nightstand had a Bible

Yes, and when the traveling revival youth pastor knocked up Cousin Jeannie she tried to abort herself. Died of sepsis in '59, poor girl. Her dad never got over it. Oh, and Father Crandall got caught with that girl at the Christmas Festival . . . what was her name, Ruby? Olive? She couldn't have been more than 14 or 15. 'Course, nobody talked about it, though lots of folks knew. Crandall had the goods on pretty much everybody in town, though he got transferred few years after that. Heard her Dad beat the hell out of her - not really her fault, though.

Every front porch had a swing

Wait, we have a swing, and we live in the evil city! Does that make us Real?!?

If every backyard had a garden

Which reminds me of the Good Old Days my best friend's family experienced during the 1930s and 1940s. Yes they had a garden. They had a garden for a very good reason. This was hill country Mississippi. That meant a Good Old Days menu of bacon, cornbread and milk (plus whatever had been canned over the summer) from November through May, when the first greens and peas came in. They spent about a nickel a day per person on food. They were lucky- they owned their land outright and were dairy farmers, so their diet was a bit better than most of their neighbors'. Bonus - they got indoor plumbing when his Mom was a senior in high school, which was in 1953.

Every front door had a screen

Wait!! We've got one of those too - things are getting more Real by the minute!!

Well, maybe this crazy world would straighten up and slow on down,

Bad World!! Bad Planet!! Bad People In Bad Places!! Straighten up and slow down because we say so, and we're Real!!!

If every town had a Mamaw's house

Oddly, most of them do, since there are plenty of grandmothers out there. Or did you mean that your grandmother should return from the dead, replicate herself and take up residence in every town across the world? Did your grandmother speak Chinese, Arabic, Russian, Spanish, Thai, Tagalog or Hindi? Lots of towns, lots of languages and people after all.

Shorter version - we harbor and personify and exemplify the virtues that made this country great - because we say we do. The world should live and believe as we do - because we say it should. And somewhere there is a gigantic space-time machine to turn back the clock and knock out the icky bits of what the past was really like - because we wish it to be so. Oh, and you are evil and suck, because you are not us, and because we say so.

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Americanme

(73 posts)
1. I agree
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:15 PM
Dec 15

I like old rock, old soul, old country. This new pop music with a southern drawl, seems like all they have to do is mention beer, and it's a hit. And I think you are right, all these songs about small towns strike me as division. We are better than the others. We are morally superior to the others. We are tougher than the others. Bunch of crap. People in cities work hard, they are honest, they love their mamas. And they pay taxes that support rural programs.

Walleye

(36,395 posts)
2. Real Americans would be writing love songs to the constitution, and the Bill of Rights
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:18 PM
Dec 15

We know when they say hard-working Americans, what they mean is white people. They can’t possibly believe in their little brains that people of color also work hard.

Demovictory9

(33,965 posts)
3. I was in a business and a country channel was playing..guy singing about an older dude advising him to
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:22 PM
Dec 15

" buy some dirt" marry someone " have kids" etc. While home spun images displayed in the video.

The song was just a list of virtues with a country spin.


biophile

(444 posts)
4. Formulaic music - kind of like Hallmark movies
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:24 PM
Dec 15

Hallmark movies usually avoid the guns and overt politics, and usually don’t include much about church, but the theme is similar. Small town living over big bad cities; family over everything, marriage over careers, etc. All the stuff the right wingers like to claim for their side exclusively is the “good” stuff.
I have watched Hallmark movies and just roll my eyes at the “country good, cities bad” dichotomy, but I strongly dislike country music.

chouchou

(1,425 posts)
5. Those good 'ol country fellows and Cowgirls voted for one of the worst scum on the planet.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:32 PM
Dec 15

They can take their phony life-styles, beer, Bibles and ram them all up their asses.
I get to hear the name "Donald Trump" for 4 more God-Damn years...Fuck um....and their simplistic cornball-music also.

BOSSHOG

(40,274 posts)
7. Great Post My Friend
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 10:21 PM
Dec 15

Many years ago Reba unintentionally wrote a song for MAGAs to sing to Trump.

I Go Along
What Else Can I Do
Maybe it’s wrong
But You Know How Much I love You
SO YOU LIE

I’m 70. Give me Sammy Kershaw, George Straight, Patty Loveless, Clint Black, Alan Jackson, and of course, Reba and others of that time

I appreciate the effort put into your post. Spot On.

bullwinkle428

(20,643 posts)
8. Tom Petty made the comment several years ago that most country music
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 10:25 PM
Dec 15

today is just bad rock with a fiddle thrown in!

Cosmocat

(15,053 posts)
9. True story - 1992
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 05:44 AM
Dec 16

I was a much younger man then.

Went to the gym I had a membership through work.

At first they blaired the usual classic rock that was played in gyms, but other times they had this talk radio guy on, which annoyed me. Me, I wanted hard driving music like Tom Sawyer by Rush, not this monotone, senseless babbling by this Rush Limbaugh guy.

I got nothing from it, always talking about Limousine Liberals and other variations of how there were these vile liberals who were at the root of all the problems in the world. I wasn't particularly worldly at that point, but I never had met anyone like it.

But, after a few times I looked around and could tell most of the people were connecting with it. This attractive girl on the treadmill who I never talked to then, but connected with several years later through work and am still friends with who has "conservative" views. Some of the guys I did develop loose friendships with at the time who were seemingly decent guys.

I had never heard of Rush Limbaugh, but while I never had encountered the liberals he railed on, I most certainly had suffered from the bitterness and cruelty of some of those truck owning, beer drinking, good Christian patriot types who could tell I wasn't one of them.

Since then I have observed how tirelessly and relentlessly this mindset has more and more permeated throughout this country. "The highway to hell is paved w dead liberals" bumperstickers and signs in auto repair shops to watching Yellowstone, which pretty much is a nonstop tribute to what the OP observed.

That is why my observations here since the early 2000s have been so cynical. I have always known how deep these things run, and how the majority of people in this country build their view of the world around it.

harumph

(2,399 posts)
10. good points. but a bit of an oversimplification.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 07:29 AM
Dec 16

lots of democrats drive trucks and own guns. many of the foregoing are non-religious.
plus there is still some no-bullshit country music out there.

JI7

(90,880 posts)
11. It's not just white xtian right wing racists
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 07:54 AM
Dec 16

I like to watch old videos and if there is a comment section People will always make a comment about those old days being a better time.

A lot of times this will be music from certain time periods. Like the 1980s and people will not just be positive about the music but think it was some great time. But this is when Reagan was President .

Even worse is seeing much older pics and videos and people talking about how well dressed they were or what a simple pleasant time it was. Once in a while people will respond with reality like how this was not long before some huge war broke out.

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