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reACTIONary

(6,157 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:30 PM Dec 14

Why, oh why are we suddenly seeing so many reports of "drones" ????

Last edited Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:34 AM - Edit history (1)

An unfortunate chain of events...

The Precondition: There are always, and always have been, moving, flashing, colored lights in the night sky. Especially on the East Coast around airports. But, that's just the way it is, and generally nobody pays any attention. Until...

The Trigger: Someone decides something strange is going on, and it breaks through the news barrier. One report leads to another, and now, instead of not paying attention, lots of people start paying attention. And they start seeing what was always there, but which they had not really noticed: Moving, flashing, colored lights in the night sky!!!!

The Interpretation: When someone starts to notice something they haven't really paid attention to before, the phenomenon requires interpretation. It could have been interpreted simply as an airplane. Or, given a nudge, a drone. Or, maybe a UFO!!! But interpreting it as a boring old airplane is just... boring. A drone or a UFO is exciting! Its something to talk about! People pay attention to you! So, there is a reward factor for the less boring and pedestrian interpretation. But...

Social Acceptance: It takes a "special" sort of person to go full UFO. And being that person is a bit uncomfortable. People might think you are a bit weird. However - Drones are not weird. We all know and experience them - they are real. So interpreting the lights in the sky as a drone gets you the reward within acceptable social boundaries. Its strange, exciting, fun... but not full wacko UFO.

So, Let the Good Times Roll!!!

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Why, oh why are we suddenly seeing so many reports of "drones" ???? (Original Post) reACTIONary Dec 14 OP
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 14 #1
Just no. Airplanes don't hover a few hundred feet off the ground and have arms coming out with propellers. NoRethugFriends Dec 14 #2
Actually, they do hover... reACTIONary Dec 14 #7
I hope the Aliens say "take me to your leader" and take Trump away and do creepy things to him. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 14 #11
Don't know why, but these were pretty much directly overhead, and I could make out the four arms. NoRethugFriends Dec 14 #13
This! CrispyQ Dec 15 #23
I'm sure I've seen group drone displays at halftime BadgerKid Dec 15 #17
Driving to Austin one day there was a large swarm of them over something. Igel Dec 15 #19
Well... Ocelot II Dec 14 #3
could it be that drones are on sale at harbor freight for less than $100 bucks rampartd Dec 14 #4
These are not Greg_In_SF Dec 14 #6
Actually, they aren't drones at all, but... reACTIONary Dec 14 #8
These people must have a lot of money to waste. I have seen drones be shot down before. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 14 #12
You don't know what you're talking about. Having seen them overhead, low, hovering, with four arms sticking out NoRethugFriends Dec 14 #14
I can't argue with you about what you saw or experienced.... reACTIONary Dec 15 #18
Every maggot on the East coast is buying a drone, and Jack Valentino Dec 14 #5
Damn! Try to capture one- they must be worth a lot of money. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 14 #10
Damn! You've been having this craziness going on. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 14 #9
Incels and their drones. Guess it's better than shooting people. But could be militia groups. Silent Type Dec 14 #15
The same thing happened in 1991/1992 in the former USSR PSPS Dec 14 #16
Bandwagon effect. Igel Dec 15 #20
Marjorie Taylor Greene Says Government 'In Control' of New Jersey Drones. Emile Dec 15 #21
The country is doomed Johnny2X2X Dec 15 #22
Because most Americans are crazy or stupid and in a lot of cases, both. BannonsLiver Dec 15 #24
100%. Noel Kums Dec 15 #25
I'm sick of hearing about the f*cking things. People need to chill out CousinIT Dec 15 #26
The same reason that everybudy sttarted seeing flying saucers in the 50s. Ping Tung Dec 15 #27
This is interesting. Drones that can find and charge off of power lines CentralMass Dec 15 #28
Distraction from all the reality about Trump's appointees and their checkered pasts? Attilatheblond Dec 15 #29
Satanic panic. Pizzeria basements. Drones. Iggo Dec 15 #30

H2O Man

(75,778 posts)
1. Recommended.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:37 PM
Dec 14

I will respectfully disagree ...... I think the safest thing we all can do at this point is to go as far beyong anxiety and panic as possible. We seem to do best as a nation when filled with superstition, delusions, and with an increased level of violence. Maybe the incoming president will tell us what country Saudi Arabia wants us to bomb. Or ask Putin for help.

NoRethugFriends

(3,069 posts)
2. Just no. Airplanes don't hover a few hundred feet off the ground and have arms coming out with propellers.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:44 PM
Dec 14

This is not like stuff before. These are drones in groups, and not something that's been around.
And no, I don't think they're aliens.

reACTIONary

(6,157 posts)
7. Actually, they do hover...
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:57 PM
Dec 14

.... I live very close to a major east coast airport. At night, and even during the day, an airplane moving at a distance towards or away from the observer appears to hover in one place. If it is moving at a slight angle, it appears to move slowly horizontally. At night, with just some lights as reference, depth perception is not reliable.

The "good" thing about aliens is that, being otherworldly, they can do strange things for no reason at all. But for drones, human agents are involved. They have to have a reason or a motive to do something out of the ordinary.

I can't really think of a reason for anyone to fly dozens of car sized drones around aimlessly in multiple locations up and down the east coast every night for weeks or months on end. What's your idea why someone would do this?

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,409 posts)
11. I hope the Aliens say "take me to your leader" and take Trump away and do creepy things to him.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 11:12 PM
Dec 14

Oh, and they can keep him too and take the kids!

NoRethugFriends

(3,069 posts)
13. Don't know why, but these were pretty much directly overhead, and I could make out the four arms.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 11:15 PM
Dec 14

They absolutely were hovering.

CrispyQ

(38,585 posts)
23. This!
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:41 PM
Dec 15

We lived close to an airport too & it's eerie to see, until you get used to it. The other thing people don't think about is how light reflects off so many surfaces & seems to bounce around. We had a weird light in our bedroom & figured out the sun was hitting a car down the street & it reflected onto the back of a metal street sign & into our window.

BadgerKid

(4,700 posts)
17. I'm sure I've seen group drone displays at halftime
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:08 AM
Dec 15

Or holiday events. This a possibly a prelude to something.

Igel

(36,229 posts)
19. Driving to Austin one day there was a large swarm of them over something.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 10:35 AM
Dec 15

Maybe just field or farm, maybe a factory. A mile or so south of the freeway.

They looked like a school of fish--reflective and moving in synchrony, doing aerobatics. Now moving as a block, now streaming in unison or splitting in multiple streams before reuniting.

Very distracting to any driver that noticed them. But nothing suspicious. Just curious.

rampartd

(869 posts)
4. could it be that drones are on sale at harbor freight for less than $100 bucks
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:50 PM
Dec 14

any moron can own one, and some can evem learn to fly them.

reACTIONary

(6,157 posts)
8. Actually, they aren't drones at all, but...
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 11:02 PM
Dec 14

.... if they are car sized drones, why would anyone be flying dozens of them around at night, aimlessly, in multiple locations up and down the east coast? Every night for weeks, maybe a few months on end?

It sounds rediculess to me. There isn't any point to it.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,409 posts)
12. These people must have a lot of money to waste. I have seen drones be shot down before.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 11:14 PM
Dec 14

They were not 6 feet though.

NoRethugFriends

(3,069 posts)
14. You don't know what you're talking about. Having seen them overhead, low, hovering, with four arms sticking out
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 11:17 PM
Dec 14

Are they a new species of bird. And I am sure in hell not a UFO person.

reACTIONary

(6,157 posts)
18. I can't argue with you about what you saw or experienced....
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 09:01 AM
Dec 15

.... I can only go by what I have seen myself, seen in videos and pictures, and my common sense.

It doesn't seem reasonable that some one or some organization would be flying car sized drones, a dozen of them at a time, up and down the East coast, in multiple locations, every night for weeks, maybe months on end. What would be the purpose of this?

Doing so would cost a whole lot lot of money, it would take hundreds of people, and it would involve a lot of obvious ground based infrastructure. If it were even possible to keep such an endeavor secret, what would you get out of it? Some sensationalistic news stories? It doesn't make any sense at all.

Jack Valentino

(1,510 posts)
5. Every maggot on the East coast is buying a drone, and
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:51 PM
Dec 14

blaming it on Biden....



I really should have gotten myself a Chinese drone source, and started selling them on Truth Social...

I might have "made a killing"

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,409 posts)
9. Damn! You've been having this craziness going on.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 11:06 PM
Dec 14

Why didn’t you tell us! It sounds like there are tons of 6 foot apparatuses flying around in NJ! They have to cost big bucks! I haven’t seen any drones near any of the airports I’ve been to in the last few months. I’ve stayed at hotels next to O’Hare and the Atlanta airport and never saw or heard any. I’m not sure about there being any UFO’s but I wouldn’t make any large bets against it (maybe a small bet). Glad I haven’t flown into NY or NJ lately. I was on a plane that flew into some geese and that almost crashed us! The only drone I’ve seen lately was my neighbors little drone that they flew over us girls at the pool.

PSPS

(14,194 posts)
16. The same thing happened in 1991/1992 in the former USSR
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 11:37 PM
Dec 14

When the USSR was dissolved in late 1991, there was a sudden surge in "UFO sightings" there. The same in the US in the 50's coinciding with the "red scare." It seems to be something that happens throughout history when there's a big shift in geopolitics or society in general.

In this case, maybe it has something to do with the election, since it seems to have started shortly after that.

Igel

(36,229 posts)
20. Bandwagon effect.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 10:39 AM
Dec 15

And a bit of paranoia mixed in with valid concerns.

It helps for the left to think that Russia's somehow involved. Or incels. Or some other enemy group that stands in the way of rightness and good.

And for the right, to think that maybe Russia or more likely China is involved. Helps that recently a Chinese national was stopped leaving with a bunch of secrets (whether industrial, governmental/political or governmental/research, I forget). Or that drones could be fitted for electronic eavesdropping, a la Ukraine.

The most intriguingly undoubtedly wrong suspicion is that there's some secret (meaning 'we don't know about it') intel about radiologic materials being assembled in New Jersey and it's Homeland Security using radiation detectors to find it to stop the "next" Islamic/Russian/Iranian (pick your enemy du jour) mass attack.

Or maybe it's just that drones are cheaper and more advanced than ever and a lot of people want easily accessible fairly open spaces without apts. and backyards to fly over, and in some places that means US installations of some sort.

Emile

(30,781 posts)
21. Marjorie Taylor Greene Says Government 'In Control' of New Jersey Drones.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 10:46 AM
Dec 15

For the likes of me, why isn't she out there shooting them down with her Jewish Space Laser?

https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-says-government-control-new-jersey-drones-2001005

BannonsLiver

(18,203 posts)
24. Because most Americans are crazy or stupid and in a lot of cases, both.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:34 PM
Dec 15

The drone story has really drawn a line under that. Most sightings are quite obviously airplanes. I doubt you could find many people walking down the street who could articulate the difference.

 

Noel Kums

(90 posts)
25. 100%.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:44 PM
Dec 15

The drone story appears to be bringing the country together through stupidity and ignorance.

CousinIT

(10,484 posts)
26. I'm sick of hearing about the f*cking things. People need to chill out
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:45 PM
Dec 15

and find something else to do.

Idiots.

Ping Tung

(1,423 posts)
27. The same reason that everybudy sttarted seeing flying saucers in the 50s.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:58 PM
Dec 15

Witches in the 17th century and Communists under their beds in the 50s.

Some people just enjoy being scared of stuff.

Attilatheblond

(4,547 posts)
29. Distraction from all the reality about Trump's appointees and their checkered pasts?
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 06:20 PM
Dec 15

That's my bet. People are starting to pay attention to the crap that is going down, even with the failure of media to report clearly.

Iggo

(48,526 posts)
30. Satanic panic. Pizzeria basements. Drones.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 06:27 PM
Dec 15

Barbaro. Balloon boy. That fucking gorilla.

Yeah, I don’t know why. I just know it happens.

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