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bigtree

(90,287 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:30 PM Dec 14

Senator Andy Kim went out with local police to spot drones flying over New Jersey

Andy Kim @AndyKimNJ Dec 13, 2024

Last night I went out with local police to spot drone flying over New Jersey, here’s what I saw. We drove to Round Valley Reservoir and the officer pointed to lights moving low over the tree line. Sometimes they were solid white light, others flashed of red and green.

We oriented ourselves with a flight tracker app to help us distinguish from airplanes. We often saw about 5-7 lights at a time that were low and not associated with aircraft we could see on the tracker app. Some hovered while others moved across the horizon.





We saw a few that looked like they were moving in small clusters of 2-4. We clearly saw several that would move horizontally and then immediately switch back in the opposite direction in maneuvers that plane can’t do.

The police officer said they see them out every night. They only seem to start when it gets dark and they disappear before dawn. They get reports that they sometimes fly low over homes, especially up in the hills.

The officer said they’ve tried to get closer with use of a helicopter but that the drones would turn off the lights and go dark if approached.

The parking lot at the reservoir had a number of cars of people coming to take a look for themselves. Several shared with me their own stories of having seen some up close. One described them being the size of the hood of a car.





I went to multiple locations across Hunterdon county to get different vantage points. This is a more rural part of NJ. It’s uncertain why it’s one of the more active area for reported activity. We are seeing reports through other parts of the state.

Any images or video footage people get, the police urge them to submit to the FBI, but I haven’t gotten any follow up yet from the FBI on their investigation and what they’ve compiled.

Homeland Security Secretary briefed last week on new technology they were deploying but we need details on what those efforts have yielded and if more resources are needed. If they haven’t fully identified the devices yet we still should know what is being done.

This has gone on for weeks. It’s hard to understand how with the technology we have we aren’t able to track these devices to determine origin and this makes me much more concerned about our capabilities more broadly when it comes to drone detection and counter measures.

I’ll continue to track these developments and share as much as possible to the people of NJ that deserve more answers than they are getting. END


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Senator Andy Kim went out with local police to spot drones flying over New Jersey (Original Post) bigtree Dec 14 OP
Senator Andy Kim, is getting out there with the other concerned citizens wendyb-NC Dec 14 #1
If they are spying, wouldn't they get better views during the day? Sneederbunk Dec 14 #2
Halftime show practice... ultralite001 Dec 14 #3
Andy Kim has posted an update. I don't have twitter so I can read the thread. Can you post? chowder66 Dec 14 #4
I posted it this am: Dennis Donovan Dec 15 #5
Thank you! I really wanted to see what he said. chowder66 Dec 15 #6
update: bigtree Dec 15 #7
Thanks! chowder66 Dec 15 #8

wendyb-NC

(3,889 posts)
1. Senator Andy Kim, is getting out there with the other concerned citizens
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:42 PM
Dec 14

He's on the job/ seeing for himself, a current issue that his citizens are concerned about. He seems like a great representative.

chowder66

(9,885 posts)
4. Andy Kim has posted an update. I don't have twitter so I can read the thread. Can you post?
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 07:51 PM
Dec 14

"After going out with police to observe reports of possible drones, I was with the help of civilian pilots and others able to do deeper analysis and concluded that most of the possible drone sightings that were pointed out to me were almost certainly planes. Let me explain: THREAD"

chowder66

(9,885 posts)
6. Thank you! I really wanted to see what he said.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:52 PM
Dec 15

I'm glad he did a deeper dive and shared it. He's one of the good ones!

bigtree

(90,287 posts)
7. update:
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:51 PM
Dec 15
Liam Nissan™ @theliamnissan
THE DRONES ARE EATING OUR CATS, THEY'RE EATING OUR DOGS

...seriously, though, good catch.

Andy Kim @AndyKimNJ
After going out with police to observe reports of possible drones, I was with the help of civilian pilots and others able to do deeper analysis and concluded that most of the possible drone sightings that were pointed out to me were almost certainly planes. Let me explain: THREAD
3:46 PM · Dec 14, 2024





While not receiving any feedback/info from federal officials, I reached out to civilian aviators/others for analysis. I used public flight tracking tools to recreate the conditions of my time out. For instance I was at Round Valley Reservoir at 9:20pm and shot this video.

While not receiving any feedback/info from federal officials, I reached out to civilian aviators/others for analysis. I used public flight tracking tools to recreate the conditions of my time out. For instance I was at Round Valley Reservoir at 9:20pm and shot this video.





I share this because this is the kind of analysis we need but are not getting from the federal government to explain this situation. FAA experts have much more experience/resources to identify aircraft. Instead I’m left to draw on civilian support and public apps.

I don’t discount others may have seen actual drone activity, and not all I saw is fully explained by flight paths, but much of it was. And I think the process through which I got confirmation points to the kind of explanation we need from gov authorities to address the public’s concern.

Press releases from federal agencies that don’t share analysis of evidence and instead just reiterate statements aren’t helpful in this moment. We have a lot of distrust in politics/government right now, and we need federal gov to respect the right for the public to be informed.

Federal experts should provide information and guidance to the public including local police departments like the one that took me out to help them decipher what they are seeing. Instead myself and others requesting are getting no feedback.

I think this situation in some ways reflects this moment in our country. People have a lot anxiety right now about the economy, health, security etc. And too often we find that those charged with working on these issues don’t engage the public with the respect and depth needed.

I’ll keep pressing to get answers about possible drones and help us understand what’s going on. On top of that, I’ll push for a government that is more responsive to the people. A customer service governance that treats people with respect, transparency and accountability. END


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