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Quiet Em

(1,350 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:25 AM Dec 14

"States can opt into standard time permanently -- which Hawaii and Arizona have done -- the reverse is prohibited

prohibited and requires congressional action."

Is this true? This is what my google AI says.

I said earlier, I think the majority of people agree we need to pick one time, Daylight Savings or Standard, and stick with it. The problem is there is disagreement on which time, Daylight Savings or Standard, to choose. But I did not know that one required Congressional action and the other did not.

Anyway, Trump is probably throwing this out there tonight because he thinks this will be an easy thing for him to get done, (it won't), and will distract everyone from all the other crap he's promised, (it won't).

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Hassler

(3,818 posts)
1. I'm fine with our current situation. Living at the 44th parallel
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:31 AM
Dec 14

It works. And depending on where in a time zone you live, it can create real issues. Spokane and Boise for two examples.

Quiet Em

(1,350 posts)
2. Yeah, the parallel's play a huge role.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:40 AM
Dec 14

This is probably something that needs to be decided on that alone. It probably should be a location decision. That won't help ease the problems with changing all the clocks on Wall Street but people are going to want their daylight and darkness at reasonable times.

Hekate

(95,568 posts)
3. I find the clock-shift unsettling -- it feels stupid to go gradually into shorter days & then boom! suddenly dark
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:45 AM
Dec 14

Let it be gradual and natural.

I lived in Hawaii about 20 years, 23 degrees off the equator, and what was natural there was to have very little change from season to season. Every so often some businessman from the Mainland would move in and start agitating for Daylight Savings Time. I still remember with amusement that the newspaper sent a photographer out to record schoolkids standing in pre-dawn darkness at the bus stop to show what they’d all have to wlk to school in if this dumb idea was adopted locally.

I’ve lived in SoCal practically a lifetime now, and have definitely adapted — but I still hope that someday we just drop a completely out-dated practice.

Quiet Em

(1,350 posts)
4. Yeah, it definitely disrupts my sleeping and eating patterns.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:54 AM
Dec 14

Here in the northeast I could adapt and live with either one, but I just wish they would pick one and stick with it. Our children in the northeast are going to walk to school in the dark in either scenario, it will just change the months that it occurs in.

dpibel

(3,454 posts)
5. How's that work?
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 01:09 AM
Dec 14

Right now is close to the shortest daylight time of the whole entire year.

Here's sunrise and sunset in Honolulu:

Sunrise Today: 7:00 am↑ 115° Southeast
Sunset Today: 5:51 pm↑ 245° West

So schoolkids in Hawaii are waiting for buses at 7 a.m.?

That's some brutal school hours.

And, frankly, I'm at a loss to understand why any businessman, Haole or otherwise, would agitate for DST where there's such a tiny difference between sunrise and sunset year round.

But, hey! You were there. All I have to go on is data.

Hekate

(95,568 posts)
6. Well, school starts at 8:00 a.m. As for businessmen from the Mainland, my recollection is...
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 05:00 AM
Dec 14

…that they kind of thought the world revolved around them and their practices. The internet and multiple satellites have changed things a lot since I left in the late ‘70s — but the sun still rises and sets on its own schedule.

As it is, anyone involved in the stock market starts working at 2:00 a.m. straddling the time zones from Japan to New York to London. My husband’s boss’s wife is an international lawyer — they’ve settled on the Big Island, and she’s another one who’s at work in the wee hours.

Beyond that, I cannot say. I’m retired myself, and much has changed.




Meowmee

(6,467 posts)
7. I thought they had finally voted to get rid of switching a couple of years ago
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 07:22 AM
Dec 14

But it turns out they left it up to each state. I don’t like switching times, even an hour has a bad effect on me. I would prefer I guess the daylight savings time or whichever means it would be lighter later in the summer and the warmer months.

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