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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(116,478 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:03 PM Dec 13

What is Wrong with Elon Musk?

What is wrong with Ellon Musk, a one time admirer wants to know!

Why is he even considering cutting Social Security and Medicare, etc.?

Doesn’t he know the harm that would do? More Seniors would have to choose between eating and heating their homes. More Seniors would have to forego medical treatments and taking prescriptions. More Seniors would become homeless or pass thru the final barrier earlier (die).

Doesn’t he know the value Seniors provide to our Society?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/12/12/2291554/-What-is-Wrong-with-Elon-Musk

He's a spoiled ass Apartheid Nepobaby.

When the world's richest man buys the presidency

In 1935, President Franklin Roosevelt created social security, an insurance contract between Americans and the federal government that pays out on certain life events. As a financial safety net, social security protects Americans from what Roosevelt called the “hazards and vicissitudes of life.”

Roosevelt’s plan has been vital to the American people, and has delivered payments on time, for generations. Today, 180 million employees are paying in, and 87 million people are receiving retirement and disability benefits under the program.

Due to fluctuating demographics and other factors, payouts under Social Security now exceed pay-ins, and most analysts agree adjustments are needed to keep the program afloat. With the help of Elon Musk, Republican lawmakers, who will soon hold majorities in the House and Senate, will try to cut guaranteed benefits instead of increasing the program’s revenue.

When billionaires slash programs to fund their own tax cuts

GOP legislators are toying with reducing payouts under the system, including raising the retirement age and other benefit cuts. As one GOP representative recently told Fox Business Network, “we're going to have to have some hard decisions” on Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/12/13/2291705/-When-the-world-s-richest-man-buys-the-presidency

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What is Wrong with Elon Musk? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 13 OP
Too much money, too many drugs, too much power and lost in CT's Autumn Dec 13 #1
"Hard Decisions" on Social Security and Medicare. The Unmitigated Gall Dec 13 #2
He's an high-functioning autistic sociopath. maxsolomon Dec 13 #3
Narcissistic mommy's boy. Never matured. nt allegorical oracle Dec 13 #9
Just like trump Rebl2 Dec 13 #30
And South African Afrikaner LiberalArkie Dec 13 #41
Correct, very little empathy, except for rich white guys n/t TexasBushwhacker Dec 13 #26
Yes, I've read he is on the spectrum, soldierant Dec 13 #28
He wants to make the US into Appartied South doc03 Dec 13 #4
From where I sit, everything. City Lights Dec 13 #5
He still lives. Efilroft Sul Dec 13 #6
Too much Ketamine, combined with far too much ego. MineralMan Dec 13 #7
This is possible if he's abusing ketamine TexasBushwhacker Dec 13 #32
He has it ALL so there is nothing left to strive for, to hope for. He really has no purpose other than trying to make Jit423 Dec 13 #43
Low self esteem maybe? taxi Dec 13 #8
8. Low self esteem maybe? MLWR Dec 13 #42
Well, there you have it. As simple as that. taxi Dec 13 #46
Cutting is another word for stealing lame54 Dec 13 #10
Eloon has also engineered a convenient "carve-out" from all of those... keep_left Dec 13 #11
Same thing that's wrong with Drumph. His parents failed to leave him on a mountain side to see jls4561 Dec 13 #12
He's a fucking nazi. Basso8vb Dec 13 #13
"Doesn't he know the harm that would do?" LudwigPastorius Dec 13 #14
Over caring about the future of humanity is pointless when you don't care about present for humanity. Jit423 Dec 13 #44
He's a ForgedCrank Dec 13 #15
He, Drumpf, & all of them seem prime specimens to *SNAP* - what's keeping them? UTUSN Dec 13 #16
It's all about the money for these thieves Alice Kramden Dec 13 #17
This is the correct answer. GoCubsGo Dec 13 #27
A narcissism virus that may prove to be fatal. Sneederbunk Dec 13 #18
Check out Seth Abramsen on bluesky. jeffreyi Dec 13 #19
It would be helpful if you would give us a summary Hekate Dec 13 #50
Ok, will see what I can find. jeffreyi Dec 13 #53
Thanks much, but never mind. I found it here at DU from CousinIT... Hekate Dec 13 #54
Thanks, that is what I was looking for... jeffreyi Dec 13 #56
Way too many people still conflate Blue_Tires Dec 13 #20
My money is on daily ketamine use coupled with being a narcisicist. nt Gore1FL Dec 13 #21
He's a dick. nt Hotler Dec 13 #22
He's likely bored & has easily pliable people to use in late January 2025 DronePilot Dec 13 #23
No one voted for him!!! BadgerMom Dec 13 #24
Malignant narcissism mixed with ketamine. Crunchy Frog Dec 13 #25
Ego, fame-fueled petulance, falling upward, and drugs. haele Dec 13 #29
The ripple effects of cutting SS will drown millions who don't receive it. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 13 #31
He's immature. Uncle Joe Dec 13 #33
Loves things and uses people Seinan Sensei Dec 13 #38
I haven't seen threats to cut SS for current recipients. WarGamer Dec 13 #34
So far they haven't Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 13 #57
if they move eligibility to 69 for those born after maybe 1990... if it saves SS maybe ok WarGamer Dec 13 #58
"He's a spoiled ass Apartheid Nepobaby" is right. And it's quite possible he views seniors, medicaid and meidcare... brush Dec 13 #35
The goal is to turn the US into rubble. rickford66 Dec 13 #36
I hate to even think about Demobrat Dec 13 #37
He needs a little justice. byronius Dec 13 #39
Mars is it Nasruddin Dec 13 #40
STD Aviation Pro Dec 13 #45
Where to begin..... Blue Owl Dec 13 #47
The problem is them treating the government like a business. GemDigger Dec 13 #48
IMHO ReRe Dec 13 #49
The billionaires are addicted to money and want it all. Irish_Dem Dec 13 #51
He wants to be a trillionaire. Less money for all those "poor" people means more money for him. Wiz Imp Dec 13 #52
They want you to suffer. The GOP is always taunting, Bluethroughu Dec 13 #55

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,619 posts)
2. "Hard Decisions" on Social Security and Medicare.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:09 PM
Dec 13

The decision on cutting taxes for the sickeningly-rich will come very easily for the GOP scum.

maxsolomon

(35,358 posts)
3. He's an high-functioning autistic sociopath.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:12 PM
Dec 13

He doesn't have or understand typical human emotions. He lacks Emotional Intelligence.

soldierant

(7,999 posts)
28. Yes, I've read he is on the spectrum,
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:53 PM
Dec 13

and have been inclined to cut him a little slack therefor. But he has gone too far to deserve any slack whatsoever.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,733 posts)
32. This is possible if he's abusing ketamine
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:04 PM
Dec 13

Taking too much too often can cause a loss of gray matter volume, which can cause a host of problems, including aggression, poor decision making.

Jit423

(429 posts)
43. He has it ALL so there is nothing left to strive for, to hope for. He really has no purpose other than trying to make
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:44 PM
Dec 13

the life of others as miserable as he can.

taxi

(2,014 posts)
8. Low self esteem maybe?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:22 PM
Dec 13

As the world's richest he could be hobnobbing with the other elite, but no, he spends his time with bums and losers at MAL.

MLWR

(22 posts)
42. 8. Low self esteem maybe?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:40 PM
Dec 13

My guess is that no one else wants to hang out with him. I wouldn't; I'm no fan of spoiled, little, rich boys who are addicted to hoarding money and can't think of anything else to do with it. He doesn't even sound like an interesting conversationalist.

taxi

(2,014 posts)
46. Well, there you have it. As simple as that.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 06:05 PM
Dec 13

He is allowed to hang at MAL with what's-his-name because he isn't an interesting conversationalist. Mx.k can parade around and look important without making TSF look stupid because, by comparison, he cannot [make Trump look stupid].

keep_left

(2,524 posts)
11. Eloon has also engineered a convenient "carve-out" from all of those...
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:25 PM
Dec 13

..."hard choices" and "hardships" from which the little people will have to suffer. Heroic "job creators" and "defense" contractors like himself should never have to go without!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219711469#post5
https://democraticunderground.com/100219639221#post3
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219623119#post19

jls4561

(1,600 posts)
12. Same thing that's wrong with Drumph. His parents failed to leave him on a mountain side to see
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:28 PM
Dec 13

If he was a good little Spartan, worthy of survival. Many families (I’m talking to you, Mr and Mrs Hegseth) made the same mistake.

LudwigPastorius

(11,065 posts)
14. "Doesn't he know the harm that would do?"
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:32 PM
Dec 13

He knows and he doesn't care.

He's a narcissist who fools himself into believing that he is righteous because he claims concern about the "future of humanity".

Any man that would ghost his own child is a piece of shit.

Jit423

(429 posts)
44. Over caring about the future of humanity is pointless when you don't care about present for humanity.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:48 PM
Dec 13

Weasel words from weasel people who have too much money, too much power, too much time.

Alice Kramden

(2,432 posts)
17. It's all about the money for these thieves
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:41 PM
Dec 13

Loot Medicare, loot Social Security, loot the Treasury - it's a game to them.

GoCubsGo

(33,158 posts)
27. This is the correct answer.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:46 PM
Dec 13

Emphasis on the "loot" part. It's something the GOP has wanted to do since the inception of Social Security. These are the last big pots of money they haven't stolen yet.

 

DronePilot

(38 posts)
23. He's likely bored & has easily pliable people to use in late January 2025
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:32 PM
Dec 13

Taking the Kim Jong Un approach.

BadgerMom

(2,990 posts)
24. No one voted for him!!!
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:37 PM
Dec 13

Scream it from the rooftops! Because he’s an immigrant, he’s not even eligible to run. Why in heaven’s name are we not loudly protesting his presence in the halls of power? Why?

Crunchy Frog

(27,117 posts)
25. Malignant narcissism mixed with ketamine.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:37 PM
Dec 13

That, and he views the "little people" like us as little more than insects.

haele

(13,647 posts)
29. Ego, fame-fueled petulance, falling upward, and drugs.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:56 PM
Dec 13

Guy grew up as a nepo-baby in Apartheid South Africa. Grew up cheating the social compact, came to America, fell upwards making code and partying, talked a good hustle, fell upwards again, got bought out big time, bought in on a couple tech start-ups, made tons of money off early adopter work, government subsidies and contracts so long as he stayed away from any actual managing or designing of the product being made.
The three things he directly had design or management involvement in lately - the Cybertruck, Starship, and the social media site formerly known as Twitter - have had so many flaws, disastrous shortcuts and "cost optimizing" risk inducements, its obvious why the Government stressed Musk was not allowed anywhere near the SpaceX contract divisions.
Starlink was a DARPA submission from the government side of SpaceX that won the contest for a portable Satellite Broadcast terminal and antenna.
Tesla initially registered and went public as a Tech company rather than a Automotive Company so they could bypass a lot of automotive regulations -and were allowed to continue as such because the then NTSB had few standards, policies and process to competently assess the tech safety features on "experimental" electric cars.
Now that electric cars are common, NTSB has all these things in place, Musk doesn't like either the requirement to meet those standards or the competition.

So, in short, Musk's problem is that he's a lucky spoiled brat who peaked around 2014 and doesn't realized all his understanding of engineering and his great design ideas are locked in the 1990's. And he tweets 18 hours a day, allegedly does Ketamine and Coke, and buys political access so he can feel like he's as socially relevant as he was in 2009.

Haele

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,739 posts)
31. The ripple effects of cutting SS will drown millions who don't receive it.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:57 PM
Dec 13

But will need to pick up the slack for loved ones who lose it. Musk and all are stupidly shortsighted.

SOCIAL SECURITY SAVED CAPITALISM!!

WarGamer

(15,744 posts)
34. I haven't seen threats to cut SS for current recipients.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:11 PM
Dec 13

If they said it... I'd like to see it.

IMHO... SS benefits need to go UP... not down.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(116,478 posts)
57. So far they haven't
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 10:11 PM
Dec 13

I have seen them want to move the eligibility age for full benefits to 69.

Not sure how good that will do. Most people collect as early as they can and take the penalty say age 62.

WarGamer

(15,744 posts)
58. if they move eligibility to 69 for those born after maybe 1990... if it saves SS maybe ok
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 11:21 PM
Dec 13

But lift the cap!!

brush

(58,018 posts)
35. "He's a spoiled ass Apartheid Nepobaby" is right. And it's quite possible he views seniors, medicaid and meidcare...
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:12 PM
Dec 13

recipients the way he was raised to view non-whites in South Africa.

trump and Musk, both being nepobabies, Musk even righer, are so similar in that regard. Colorism seems to influence their thinking...as the old saying goes: "If you're Black, get back, if you're Brown, stick around."

But obviously the saying has to be adjusted because it's no longer: "...if you're Brown, stick around." It's now if you're Brown, hell no don't stick around, get back across the border and don't come back. In the meantime while we figure it out, get in that deportation camp until we can figure out where to ship you.

rickford66

(5,696 posts)
36. The goal is to turn the US into rubble.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:18 PM
Dec 13

The billionaires don't care about you, me or the country at large. They want to create fiefdoms on top of the rubble.

Everything you need to know about Elon Musk by Seth Abramson:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219815436

and more important and frightening:

Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas

https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

Get it through your heads. They want to destroy the US as it exists. It will start happening Jan 20, 2025.

Demobrat

(9,945 posts)
37. I hate to even think about
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:21 PM
Dec 13

all the good he could do in the world if only he were a decent person. He could single-handedly end hunger in this country and be remembered for that for as long as history books are written. But no, the richest man in the world wants more for himself. Just a sickening example of how low humanity really can go.

byronius

(7,643 posts)
39. He needs a little justice.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:34 PM
Dec 13

One month of any of the dirty jobs I did as a young man, working in terrible conditions for minimum wage next to others worse off than I was would have completely altered his worldview.

He’s just never been ‘there’. But he’ll go there eventually. Until he does he’ll keep offering up dickish nonsense like any other wealthy fool who knows nothing of the idiocy his words represent.

The GOP has always been safe for stupidity. It’s their cause, their mantra, their destiny.

Eisenhower was the last decent republican — and he would have slapped some sense into Elon’s idiot noggin.


Nasruddin

(866 posts)
40. Mars is it
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:38 PM
Dec 13

It's like heaven in the Middle Ages ... the mythical promise of the great beyond blinds the believer to the work that needs to and could be done here below.

More's the pity in his case since he had already done a lot of good before that regulating neuron burned out.

GemDigger

(4,342 posts)
48. The problem is them treating the government like a business.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 06:51 PM
Dec 13

When we no longer offer them a return on their investment, then we are no longer useful to them, so they fire us.



ReRe

(10,902 posts)
49. IMHO
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:31 PM
Dec 13

I think too much money drives some people out of their minds. Morals, empathy, love, kindness, generosity over time (probably since birth) have never materialized. What we have now is a bunch of them getting their heads together dreaming of getting their hands on the U.S. Treasury on January 20, 2025. Lunatics are getting ready to take over the asylum.
The idea of doing away with the Polio vaccine???????

Irish_Dem

(59,687 posts)
51. The billionaires are addicted to money and want it all.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:29 PM
Dec 13

They truly believe that all wealth in the US belongs to them.
They deserve it, we don't.

They will take the money we paid into SS for themselves and not think twice about it.

Wiz Imp

(2,430 posts)
52. He wants to be a trillionaire. Less money for all those "poor" people means more money for him.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:35 PM
Dec 13

And make no mistake, he wants to build up that wealth as quickly as possible.

Bluethroughu

(5,988 posts)
55. They want you to suffer. The GOP is always taunting,
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:56 PM
Dec 13

The poor are not poor and Americans are spoiled. This coming from millionaire + mostly nepo babies.

I got facts for them, American workers have been at the top of production without a fair compensation and benefits for their efforts.
Production up, wages and compensation flat. In comparison to the 1970's adjusted for inflation.

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