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WhiskeyGrinder

(24,180 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:58 AM Dec 13

Biden commutes sentence for Kids-for-Cash judge

https://www.citizensvoice.com/2024/12/12/biden-commutes-sentence-for-kids-for-cash-judge/

Former Luzerne County Judge Michael T. Conahan, who gained notoriety for wrongfully imprisoning juveniles in the Kids-for-Cash scandal, is one of nearly 1,500 inmates whose sentences President Joe Biden commuted Thursday as his term in office comes to a close.

Conahan, 72, was convicted along with former judge Mark A. Ciavarella Jr., 74, of funneling juvenile defendants to two private, for-profit detention centers in exchange for $2.1 million in kickbacks.

Conahan pleaded guilty to racketeering conspiracy charges and was sentenced in 2011 to 17½ years in prison. However, he petitioned the courts for a “compassionate release” during the COVID-19 pandemic, writing that he was “in grave danger of not only contracting the virus, but of dying from the virus.”

(snip)

The judges were convicted of accepting millions in kickbacks in exchange for populating for-profit juvenile prisons with offenders whose sentences were often disproportionate to their crimes.
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Biden commutes sentence for Kids-for-Cash judge (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Dec 13 OP
Wtf? XanaDUer2 Dec 13 #1
Let me add a WTH JCMach1 Dec 13 #30
Will he Pardon trump XanaDUer2 Dec 13 #32
Joe sure got this one wrong as hell. marble falls Dec 13 #2
This guy was already out of prison, right? Prairie Gates Dec 13 #6
Why? That's one of the more heinous crimes out there. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 13 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 13 #10
Your pizza is almost ready! Emile Dec 13 #14
You have to wonder. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 13 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 13 #17
This is ridiculous. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 13 #18
The danger of blanket clemencies Prairie Gates Dec 13 #4
Why ??? SamKnause Dec 13 #5
He wasn't in prison...look at the part that the OP left out of the quotation Prairie Gates Dec 13 #8
Thanks for the information. SamKnause Dec 13 #9
It's pretty bad, indeed - there was no news that I can remember of this guy being released Prairie Gates Dec 13 #13
That's actually worse peregrinus Dec 13 #20
Yes, indeed it is Prairie Gates Dec 13 #21
He should have been returned to the cold hard cell he sent the kids to. Bluethroughu Dec 13 #31
Nobody's disputing that Prairie Gates Dec 13 #39
Except the person who commuted the sentence. nt kelly1mm Dec 13 #52
How many of the 1500 COVID protocol releases have been returned to prison? Prairie Gates Dec 13 #54
How about doing nothing and letting him finish out his sentence ? MichMan Dec 13 #55
Biden commuted the sentence pf 1500 people on house arrest based on COVID protocol Prairie Gates Dec 13 #57
Apparently, they thought his sentence was too harsh MichMan Dec 13 #59
The Trump administration released him from prison Prairie Gates Dec 14 #60
From the link MichMan Dec 14 #61
The Trump administration released him from prison Prairie Gates Dec 14 #63
Yes, Trump was president when the courts accepted his petition and sent him to home confinement MichMan Dec 14 #64
Oh Trump has no responsibility for what happened on his watch Prairie Gates Dec 14 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Dec 14 #66
Yeah. He is a monster Demovictory9 Dec 13 #43
When you're DeepWinter Dec 13 #7
Sickening BeerBarrelPolka Dec 13 #11
'Kids for Cash' victim reacts after Biden commutes sentence for Luzerne County judge Goonch Dec 13 #12
It's BeerBarrelPolka Dec 13 #19
What the actual fuck peregrinus Dec 13 #16
Those so-called judges should die in prison. dalton99a Dec 13 #22
No. They didn't deserve a second chance. Solly Mack Dec 13 #23
This is why they lose elections... Fix The Stupid Dec 13 #24
Biden won JI7 Dec 13 #26
I agree with almost every negative reaction to this person's release. Fla Dem Dec 13 #25
Horrible move. Bluethroughu Dec 13 #27
Disgusting. The Unmitigated Gall Dec 13 #28
My question is, does the judge have any assets above poverty level? Bluethroughu Dec 13 #29
He deserved to rot in prison. Blue Full Moon Dec 13 #33
Horrible decision. Oneironaut Dec 13 #34
I can see trump and his henchmen doing that, but WTF? Silent Type Dec 13 #35
Chuckle, chuckle republianmushroom Dec 13 #36
Thought about this some more, I see it is not just republicans. republianmushroom Dec 13 #37
I sure as hell don't agree with that one. Vinca Dec 13 #38
WRONG, Mr. President! Freddie Dec 13 #40
Somebody in the administration made sure he was put on the list MichMan Dec 13 #41
I thought the same thing. Bluethroughu Dec 13 #42
This is the kind of pardon I would have expected from Trump - not Biden. PeaceWave Dec 13 #44
It's NOT a Pardon. It's a Commutation. maxsolomon Dec 13 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Dec 13 #46
Exactly BeerBarrelPolka Dec 13 #48
"Nothing brings out DU's inner conservative quite like the thought that a criminal isn't being punished enough." maxsolomon Dec 13 #50
I'm sorry BeerBarrelPolka Dec 13 #53
Thank You! nt RobinA Dec 13 #47
He probably had about 15-18 months of home confinement left on his sentence Prairie Gates Dec 13 #49
Post removed Post removed Dec 13 #51
This was one of the most heinous crimes I've ever heard.. Willis88 Dec 13 #56
He wqas sentenced to 17 1/2 years...he served 9 in prison, then Trump released him to home arrest Prairie Gates Dec 14 #62
I wonder what outdated laws, policies and practices they are referring to ? MichMan Dec 13 #58
Slap in the face to all the juveniles who were sent away for years of their formative lives. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 14 #67

Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #3)

BlueTsunami2018

(4,107 posts)
15. You have to wonder.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:27 AM
Dec 13

Did these things slip through the cracks? Did someone deliberately put that one in the stack?

I doubt President Biden personally vetted these pardons and commutations.

Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #15)

Prairie Gates

(3,645 posts)
4. The danger of blanket clemencies
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:10 AM
Dec 13

One of the 1500. The only one anyone will talk about from now until when Trump pardons violent January 6 convicts.

Just kidding. They won't talk about that.

SamKnause

(13,928 posts)
5. Why ???
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:10 AM
Dec 13

Both of them deserve to die in prison.

Judges, police, attorneys, public defenders, and attorney generals deserve double the punishment.

Anyone whose job it is to protect law and order should have their sentences doubled.

Prairie Gates

(3,645 posts)
8. He wasn't in prison...look at the part that the OP left out of the quotation
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:13 AM
Dec 13
He was released to home confinement in Florida under federal supervision in June 2020.


He was released from prison during the Trump administration under the COVID release protocols. He's been out of prison for 4 years. Biden's commutation basically took 3 or 4 years off his home confinement.

It's weird that the OP skipped that part of the story...

SamKnause

(13,928 posts)
9. Thanks for the information.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:16 AM
Dec 13

That makes it worse.

He should have never been let out.

If he caught covid, oh well.

The two of them didn't give a damn about the kids they damaged.

The justice system or lack there of sucks in this country.

Prairie Gates

(3,645 posts)
13. It's pretty bad, indeed - there was no news that I can remember of this guy being released
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:26 AM
Dec 13

Again, that happened in June 2020. As I read it, he didn't even have COVID - he was just eligible for COVID-related release. As it stands, he served about 9 years of a 17 1/2 year sentence in prison, and now has 4 1/2 years on home confinement. With the commutation, he basically takes the next 4 years off his home confinement. He has served 79% of his sentence; the federal average is 85% of the sentence, which in his case would have been a little under 15 years. He's served 13 1/2 years, so this commutation would have taken about 18 months off his sentence.

Prairie Gates

(3,645 posts)
54. How many of the 1500 COVID protocol releases have been returned to prison?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:16 PM
Dec 13

Do you know?

He was already on house arrest, and probably had 15-18 months left to serve. Shoudl the President have intervened in the BOP policy to return this guy to prison? Is that your claim?

MichMan

(13,718 posts)
55. How about doing nothing and letting him finish out his sentence ?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:12 PM
Dec 13

The DOJ could certainly have returned people to prison once the threat of Covid had subsided.

Prairie Gates

(3,645 posts)
57. Biden commuted the sentence pf 1500 people on house arrest based on COVID protocol
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 10:42 PM
Dec 13

None of them were in prison.

If 1 or 2 or 10 were bad seeds, that's a fuck-up, to be sure, but on balance, I'm not losing sleep over this guy taking his ankle monitor off now rather than in January 2026. The other 1490, or 1498, or 1499 make up for it, my view.

By the way, this guy was released from prison and put on house arrest during the Trump administration. That's important to note, no?

MichMan

(13,718 posts)
59. Apparently, they thought his sentence was too harsh
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 10:59 PM
Dec 13
In a prepared statement, Biden said the commutations were granted because the defendants “would receive lower sentences if charged under today’s laws, policies, and practices.”

“These commutation recipients, who were placed on home confinement during the COVID pandemic, have successfully reintegrated into their families and communities and have shown that they deserve a second chance,” Biden said.

In a separate statement, White House officials said Biden is granting clemency to nonviolent offenders “who were sentenced under outdated laws, policies, and practices.”


Prairie Gates

(3,645 posts)
60. The Trump administration released him from prison
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:41 AM
Dec 14

Which is something you should acknowledge, seems to me.

Like I said, if 1498 get some relief and two are awful, I can live with that, especially if he was gonna take the ankle monitor off in a year, year and a half anyway.

MichMan

(13,718 posts)
61. From the link
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:46 AM
Dec 14
Conahan pleaded guilty to racketeering conspiracy charges and was sentenced in 2011 to 17½ years in prison. However, he petitioned the courts for a “compassionate release” during the COVID-19 pandemic, writing that he was “in grave danger of not only contracting the virus, but of dying from the virus.”


IMO, as soon as the pandemic concern was no longer, he should have been returned back to prison, not released early because his sentence was considered to be too harsh

Prairie Gates

(3,645 posts)
63. The Trump administration released him from prison
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:51 AM
Dec 14

Which is somethign you should acknowledge, it seems to me. It's getting weird that you won't.

Also from the link:

He was released to home confinement in Florida under federal supervision in June 2020.


Who was President in June 2020? We all know. You can say it.

MichMan

(13,718 posts)
64. Yes, Trump was president when the courts accepted his petition and sent him to home confinement
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 01:12 AM
Dec 14

Trump was gone in 6 months. Conahan should have been sent right back to jail as soon as Trump was gone and kept there until his sentence was completed.

He sent juveniles to prison in return for bribes, yet people for some reason feel sorry for him and support his early release. I just don't get it.

President Biden said the commutations were granted because the defendants “would receive lower sentences if charged under today’s laws, policies, and practices.” I disagree with both the president and you that the original sentence was too harsh.









Prairie Gates

(3,645 posts)
65. Oh Trump has no responsibility for what happened on his watch
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 01:13 AM
Dec 14


Please don 't delete all these posts, too, guy.



Response to Prairie Gates (Reply #65)

DeepWinter

(654 posts)
7. When you're
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:12 AM
Dec 13

commuting 1,500 people at time with one signature, you haven't a clue as to who you're commuting. You might know a dozen of them. People who know people who pull strings get names on a list and the President is trusting his people that this is OK.

I would really like to not see it done this way. It's a classic Good 'Ol boy smokey backroon deal for the majority of these people. Or it at least has the perception of that, and that's not good.

 

peregrinus

(409 posts)
16. What the actual fuck
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:29 AM
Dec 13

This judge was in service to Capitalist America Inc. that’s the only reason why the senate was commuted

Fix The Stupid

(967 posts)
24. This is why they lose elections...
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 11:32 AM
Dec 13

Right here..this.

There is no defence for this. Don't even try...

And don't give me the 'Trump did this too and it was worse! eleventy!!"

When you start comparing your actions to that idiot, you've already lost the conversation...

Fla Dem

(25,965 posts)
25. I agree with almost every negative reaction to this person's release.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 11:32 AM
Dec 13

Last edited Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:06 PM - Edit history (1)

However he had served 13 of his 17 year sentence and has been under home confinement since 2020.

His sentence was commuted by President Joe Biden on December 12, 2024, as part of a blanket commutation of offenders who'd been granted home confinement during the COVID-19 Pandemic.[26][27]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Conahan


So really not a great change.

Bluethroughu

(6,139 posts)
29. My question is, does the judge have any assets above poverty level?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:21 PM
Dec 13

The children, he wrongly convicted and incarcerated have records and backgrounds that prevent them from living their best life...he profited off their demise.

He IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR COUNTRY.

republianmushroom

(18,371 posts)
36. Chuckle, chuckle
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:36 PM
Dec 13

"Conahan, 72, was convicted along with former judge Mark A. Ciavarella Jr., 74, of funneling juvenile defendants to two private, for-profit detention centers in exchange for $2.1 million in kickbacks." Judges picking up a little pocket change.

Guess I'm going to have to cut back my criticism of the convicted felons pardoning some now. Chuckle, chuckle

Don't know whether to put the sarcastic sticker on this or not.

Freddie

(9,762 posts)
40. WRONG, Mr. President!
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 01:43 PM
Dec 13

My son was involved in the juvenile courts at the time this case was happening. He was no angel but he certainly didn’t deserve a prison sentence. Thankfully we live in another county and he was treated fairly. What happened to those kids kept me up at night. How could a judge even call himself human to deliberately inflict pain on CHILDREN to line his pocket?? They deserved life with no parole. Did the kids get any restitution? Free state university would have been a good start.

MichMan

(13,718 posts)
41. Somebody in the administration made sure he was put on the list
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 02:18 PM
Dec 13

Who was responsible and what did they get out of it?

maxsolomon

(35,423 posts)
45. It's NOT a Pardon. It's a Commutation.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:18 PM
Dec 13

Sentenced to 17 years in 2011. That's 13 years ago. He was sent home in 2020 so he didn't get CV19. He likely would have been released by now if CV19 had never happened.

Get over it, DU. The quality of mercy is not strained.

Response to maxsolomon (Reply #45)

maxsolomon

(35,423 posts)
50. "Nothing brings out DU's inner conservative quite like the thought that a criminal isn't being punished enough."
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:40 PM
Dec 13

- Some Goddamned Internet Person

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,439 posts)
53. I'm sorry
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 06:51 PM
Dec 13

I'm sorry that you're so soft on crime.

Your blubbering, name calling, and internet bullying won't work on me. I can guarantee you that 100%.

Prairie Gates

(3,645 posts)
49. He probably had about 15-18 months of home confinement left on his sentence
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:09 PM
Dec 13

He's served 79% of the sentence; average for federals is 85%.

On balance, if they find one or two or ten of the 1,500 - all of whom are already out of prison, by the way - who should not have been commuted, that seems like an alright trade if it gets the other 1490, 1498, or 1499 to the end of their sentences in good order.

Everyone of the 1,500 commutations was of a prisoner already released to home confinement for COVID protocols.

Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Willis88

(138 posts)
56. This was one of the most heinous crimes I've ever heard..
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:15 PM
Dec 13

Why?

Someone please explain like I’m 5. Why?!?

Prairie Gates

(3,645 posts)
62. He wqas sentenced to 17 1/2 years...he served 9 in prison, then Trump released him to home arrest
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:48 AM
Dec 14

He's served 4 1/2 years in home confinement. Biden commuted the sentence of everyone who was released to home confinement under COVID protocols. He was one of those. He was going to be under home cofinement anothe 18 months if he were to serve the federal usual of 85% of his sentence. He's served 79% of his sentence.

This guy is a horrible shitbag, but was going to be free anyway in a year and half. Buden did not commute his sentence specifically, but everyone who was in his same situation. Unfortunately, that got him lcuky, so he gets to take his ankle monitor off now rather than in January or June 2026.

MichMan

(13,718 posts)
58. I wonder what outdated laws, policies and practices they are referring to ?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 10:56 PM
Dec 13
In a prepared statement, Biden said the commutations were granted because the defendants “would receive lower sentences if charged under today’s laws, policies, and practices.”

“These commutation recipients, who were placed on home confinement during the COVID pandemic, have successfully reintegrated into their families and communities and have shown that they deserve a second chance,” Biden said.

In a separate statement, White House officials said Biden is granting clemency to nonviolent offenders “who were sentenced under outdated laws, policies, and practices.”


ForgoTheConsequence

(4,936 posts)
67. Slap in the face to all the juveniles who were sent away for years of their formative lives.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:13 PM
Dec 14

Democrats should have nothing but ill will and disgust toward the private prison industrial complex.

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